well i finally got the, "we would like to stop by with the circus oversneer and have an encouraging visit.
would ---------day be good, at say -----------?".
it'll probably be a pretty dull visit with the entire conversation being only one way.
A number of years ago there was a brilliant guy here who had fun with his overseeing visit.
When asked if he felt the WTB&TS was God's spirit-directed organization, he answered "Yes," then added that he was not sure there was a God.
The "shepherds" accepted his answer!
I hope you have fun!
you know about my not-so-ugly divorce and how me and my wife found out the religion is false.
she still attends while my 17 year old has been raging on me about all the wasted time he suffered from by being in this religion.
he think's his life is ruined, very angry we did not learn this was a cult earlier(he was 14 when he stopped attending after reading the revelation book, he said "in all time and history, how could a trumpet blown in revelation have anything to do with a jw bible student convention statement"?.
Your 17-year old son needs to shift his perspective. Yes, MAYBE he could have been a HS jock.
Was he really that good? Really? Probably he's a legend in his own mind.
All across the world there are bars in which you can find 50 year old HS jocks who have done NOTHING of note since graduation. They live lives of quiet desperation, WITHOUT EVER having been a JW!
There are many many ways to ruin your life, and MOST of them do not involve having parents who themselves were the VICTIMS of a CULT!
You son has an opportunity to turn himself into something far better than a HS jock - he can begin the process of becoming a MAN who appreciates what a gift his father has given him by RELEASING HIM from the CULT he was born into..
why am i here on this site?
why have i lost my faith in this version of christianity?
it's simple.
WELCOME. Your story is not unique, but it is still valid and it will always be YOUR story. I would not wish my story on anyone, but I have read experiences here that make me feel like my life was a cakewalk in comparison to others. You may have a similar experience; but the important thing is that you CAN live "Happier Ever After."
Abandon the JW way of thinking in absolutes. Don't think that you MUST be miserable because your wife and extended family are still trapped in JW mind -control; make it YOUR job to show them how happy an unencumbered life can be. While you may have lost some time treading water waiting for the world to end, NOW you can look for ways to enjoy your life - achieve artistic or academic self-fulfillment.
Jehovah is a sock puppet lying eternally asleep in a drawer in Fred Franz' old desk. You can do NOTHING to make the sock puppet happy. Abandon the sock-puppet and live for YOU.
...and if that means you eventually leave your DubWife and your DubFamily behind, Que sera, sera! Sometimes you have to leave MISERY with no company.
Best wishes to you!
the july 15, 2015 study watchtower article entitled "your deliverance is getting near", along with the jw broadcasting video entitled "gerrit losch: fortified by "the prophetic word," and chapter 21 of the god's kingdom rules!
book presented a large amount of new light or clarified understanding of the events of the great tribulation.. here i am presenting it in chronological order -- this is the governing body's updated chronological order of events for the time right before the great tribulation through armageddon:.
the final sealing of the anointed occurs just prior to the outbreak of the tribulation.
When did the UN once again become "The Disgusting Thing"?
Or was it still the disgusting thing when the WTB&TS hooked up with it? Was the WTB&TS just a bit horny and looking for some strange?
long time lurker (2009-ish), first time poster.
first of all, i want to say thank you everyone who contributes to these boards and provokes stimulating conversations and thought processes.
all the opinions and different perspectives are very enlightening.
Hey Spud-nik,
I'm an atheist; welcome to the frying pan!
Here's something you might find is an easy way to increase the burden of doubt in your mind - watch a few season's worth of Animal Planet's "MONSTERS INSIDE ME". They are up to season 5, I think. In short, it is a layman's course in the subject of PARASITISM, which is Nature's Way of saying, "Fuck you and your imaginary friend!"
You may want to keep a puke bucket close at hand while you watch, unless you've got a really strong stomach, in which case you can let the puke bucket sit six feet away.
Here's a link: http://www.animalplanet.com/tv-shows/monsters-inside-me/
Share the shows with your wife. Ask probing questions like, "How do these things fit in with god's glorious plan?" "What purpose would such vile creatures serve in Paradise?" "Should we not care that other creatures suffer and die with parasites, even if we humans were spared?"
Share your puke bucket with her, demonstrate the divine quality of empathy.
i stole this, from of all places, rick fearon.
i don't know who he stole it from.
please think of more.. things i trust more than the jehovah's witnesses governing body+ the media+ mexican tap water+ cappuccino from bill cosby+ a bigfoot sighting+ a politician who says "trust me"+ an al qaeda who wants flying lessons, but skips landing and take-offs+ a hillary clinton war story+ bill clinton wanting to give a speech at an all-female school+ gas station sushi+ a brian williams or bill o'rielly news report+ email from a nigerian prince.
I consider Rick Fearon a friend and anything he wants to plagiarize from me I consider an honor. He has my full and complete permission and support. You're a good man, Rick!
i stole this, from of all places, rick fearon.
i don't know who he stole it from.
please think of more.. things i trust more than the jehovah's witnesses governing body+ the media+ mexican tap water+ cappuccino from bill cosby+ a bigfoot sighting+ a politician who says "trust me"+ an al qaeda who wants flying lessons, but skips landing and take-offs+ a hillary clinton war story+ bill clinton wanting to give a speech at an all-female school+ gas station sushi+ a brian williams or bill o'rielly news report+ email from a nigerian prince.
With thanks to JustKidding:
Playing Russian roulette with a semiautomatic pistol (where there is NO empty chamber).
i stole this, from of all places, rick fearon.
i don't know who he stole it from.
please think of more.. things i trust more than the jehovah's witnesses governing body+ the media+ mexican tap water+ cappuccino from bill cosby+ a bigfoot sighting+ a politician who says "trust me"+ an al qaeda who wants flying lessons, but skips landing and take-offs+ a hillary clinton war story+ bill clinton wanting to give a speech at an all-female school+ gas station sushi+ a brian williams or bill o'rielly news report+ email from a nigerian prince.
OTWO confessed, "I stole this, from of all places, Rick Fearon. I don't know who he stole it from."
MAYBE http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/206030004/things-that-trust-more-hillary-clinton
from that nutty red book of insanity, the grand climax at hand book, chapter 22, paragraphs 7 & 8. .
i had my doubts since childhood.
i went along with it to please people.
When I read ALIVE!'s comment, "I'm sitting here and it's ALL coming back to me."
I flashed on this song by Meatloaf and, well, here it is:
Maybe somehow the lyrics are germane to this discussion. If not, consider it a musical interlude in the discussion...
things that i trust more than hillary clinton:.
mexican tap water.
any email from nigeria.
Things that I trust more than Hillary Clinton:
Mexican tap water. Any email from Nigeria. A rattlesnake with a "pet me" sign. OJ Simpson showing me his knife collection. A fart when I have diarrhea. An elevator ride with Ray Rice. Taking pills offered by Bill Cosby. Michael Jackson's Doctor. An Obama Nuclear deal with Iran. A Palestinian on a motorcycle. Gas station Sushi. A Jimmy Carter economic plan. Brian Williams news reports. Loch Ness monster sightings. Prayers for peace from Al Sharpton. Truck stop hookers. Tax advice from the IRS. Used car salesmen. Pet food from China. Recap tires at 100 mph
